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#1 2014-12-06 16:17:03

daveb21
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Name: Dave Brice
From: Norfolk
Registered: 2014-05-01
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Heleomyzidae key info

Sorry to repeat requests in regard to keys for Heleomyzidae but new to this and not sure if

"Collin, J.E. 1943b. The British species of Helomyzidae (Diptera). Entomologist's monthly Magazine 79: 234-251" can still be sourced from anywhere?

Also are there any guides to genus level? I have the Suillia key but no way of knowing if the specimens I have are actually that genus!

Any help very much appreciated,

TIA,
Dave

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#2 2014-12-06 17:04:14

malcolmsmart
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Name: Malcolm Smart
From: Wolverhampton
Registered: 2008-02-26
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Re: Heleomyzidae key info

I have e-mailed some material to you including the content of the paper you requested.
Malcolm

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#3 2014-12-06 17:15:38

daveb21
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Name: Dave Brice
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Re: Heleomyzidae key info

Many thanks - emailed reply

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#4 2015-03-16 10:43:46

abbyrhodes
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Name: Abigail Rhodes
Registered: 2015-03-05
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Re: Heleomyzidae key info

Has the name Leriinae changed? I am trying to identify a Heleomyzid fly and get as far as Leriinae but am struggling to get any further.

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#5 2015-03-16 15:00:47

brianh
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Name: Brian Harding
From: Kidlington, Oxfordshire
Registered: 2008-10-27
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Re: Heleomyzidae key info

It seems very confusing.
If you are following Collin's keys then Leria now seems to be Heleomyza.
But looking at the Collin's key for Heleomyza most seem to be Suillia.
However looking at Collin's key just at Leria (which is now part of Heleomyzinae) of the four species two are now Scoliocentra and two Heleomyza.
If you use Collin's key then you should follow it through and then find the modern nomenclature which you will find in the Checklist section of this website.
OR use the modern draft key that Malcolm may have sent you.
I repeat that for me it is very confusing and I have covered only part of the changes. Looking closely at the Checklist may allow you to unravel these changes.

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#6 2015-03-16 18:53:25

abbyrhodes
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Name: Abigail Rhodes
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Re: Heleomyzidae key info

Thank you very much Brian. You did mention a modern draft key (Malcolm) which sounds much easier to follow than Collin's (if it is anything like the draft key to the families). I would very much like one please.

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#7 2015-03-16 21:58:45

brianh
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Name: Brian Harding
From: Kidlington, Oxfordshire
Registered: 2008-10-27
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Re: Heleomyzidae key info

You would have to see if anyone can supply you with this. As they are not my keys I cannot distribute them.
It is the keys to Spiny Winged Flies by Alan Stubbs issued to attendees at the 2013 or 2014 workshop at Preston Montford.
It is not necessarily easier to use than Collin's key, but is more up to date with new species and revised taxonomy.
If I am confident that I have a Heleomyzid then I still use the Collin key to get to species before looking up the current species name, as well as the Spiny Winged key.

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#8 2015-03-17 00:03:29

abbyrhodes
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Name: Abigail Rhodes
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Re: Heleomyzidae key info

Thank you very much.

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#9 2017-11-16 15:06:42

acampbell17
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Registered: 2017-11-16
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Re: Heleomyzidae key info

Hello,

Does anyone still have access to "Collin, J.E. 1943b. The British species of Helomyzidae (Diptera). Entomologist's monthly Magazine 79: 234-251"?

I can't seem to find it anywhere and I need it for a forensic entomology project.

Thank you in advance

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