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#1 2011-10-09 18:16:53

yorkie
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Name: Maris Midgley
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Crane flies?

Attached are photos of 3 species I saw earlier this year in the Forest of Dean, West Gloucs.

Crane 1 (2 photos) was seen on 10th May at Soudley Ponds, a damp mixed woodland valley
Crane 2 (1 photo) was seen on 19th May also at Soudley Ponds
Crane 3 (3 photos) was seen on 31st July in my conservatory at Lydney, Forest of Dean

Are these all crane flies and can any of them be identified from these photos?

Thanks

Yorkie


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#2 2011-10-09 22:12:50

Judy Webb
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Re: Crane flies?

Crane 2 looks like Epiphragma ocellare. Crane 3 is a Ptychoptera sp. - others will help further!
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#3 2011-10-12 15:32:25

haematocephalus
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Re: Crane flies?

Cranefly 1 is a Tipula species, and the only one I know with mottled wings and extensively darkened femora is Tipula (Pterelachisus) varipennis, which is a common woodland species that flies in May. However, there are some rather similar species in subgenus Pterelachisus, and I don't know whether any of the others also has such dark legs.

Agree with Judy for no. 2, and no. 3 is Ptychoptera contaminata judging by the wing venation and clear dark spots.


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#4 2011-10-12 18:59:37

yorkie
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Name: Maris Midgley
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Re: Crane flies?

Judy and Martin

Thanks for your replies.

Yorkie

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