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#1 2008-08-03 02:44:35

jaapiella
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Name: Scotty Dodd
From: Surrey/Hants border
Registered: 2008-06-27
Posts: 64

Isles of Scilly Diptera

Hello all

I wondered if there is a list of Diptera known from the Isles of Scilly available and if so who to contact. After a recent visit there I have voucher material and field records mainly from Syrphidae, Assilidae, Therevidae and Tachinidae.

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Scotty

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#2 2008-08-03 23:26:02

KenMerrifield
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Name: Ken Merrifield
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Re: Isles of Scilly Diptera

You could contact the Environmental Records Centre for Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly, who no doubt would like your records
http://www.erccis.co.uk/


I think you should be able to get a list of the species recorded from the Scillies using the interactive map at the NBN Gateway. I hope someone who is more familiar with using the NBN Gateway can explain how to get a list of species in an area, I have only just found how to get a listing for an individual species.
http://www.searchnbn.net
e.g.
http://www.searchnbn.net/interactive/map.jsp


There may be more up-to-date Hoverfly records at
http://www.hoverfly.org.uk Hoverfly Recording Scheme

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#3 2008-08-07 00:04:35

jaapiella
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Name: Scotty Dodd
From: Surrey/Hants border
Registered: 2008-06-27
Posts: 64

Re: Isles of Scilly Diptera

Hello Ken

Thanks for taking the trouble to post your suggestions. I have tried NBN but find it is often lacking.

I shall pursue the other suggestions!

Regards

Scotty

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#4 2008-08-07 17:22:47

Rainieria
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Name: Darwyn Sumner
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Re: Isles of Scilly Diptera

Not the NBN's fault.
I posted the Dipterists Forum's Devon & Cornwall Field Week records onto NBN Gateway some years ago. We didn't visit the Scillys though.
I also sent ERCCIS all the same records. They are a pretty good LRC based in some rather attractive Wildlife Trust property a short bus-ride out of Truro and will be able to tell you about Diptera recording in the islands.
If they've got Diptera records other than the ones I've sent them, it needs for someone to go and work there as a volunteer and do it for them.


Darwyn Sumner
DF Bulletin Editor, Scheme Organiser: Stilt & Stalk Flies

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#5 2008-08-07 23:52:06

jaapiella
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Name: Scotty Dodd
From: Surrey/Hants border
Registered: 2008-06-27
Posts: 64

Re: Isles of Scilly Diptera

Hi Darwyn

I appreciate that it is not the fault of NBN - they just deal with what they are sent or not. With hymenoptera records I send them via BWARS where they can be queried before submission to the national dataset.

I have made contact with ERCCIS and now need to fill out the relevant forms and hope that they look on me kindly and not charge for their services! In turn I will submit records from all orders sampled.

As I live in VC17 I will not be able to offer my voluntary services to the LRC. I think that many records centres have the same problem.

Regards

Scotty

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#6 2008-08-08 14:09:29

Rainieria
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Name: Darwyn Sumner
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Re: Isles of Scilly Diptera

I've done a good deal of work with the NBN wearing both a Local Records Centre and a National Recording Scheme hat simultaneously and been involved with them in serious attempts to draw the two groups closer together

Local Records Centres should charge commercial users but consider the delivery of services to the general public (County and Country) to be free of charge, they tend to do this by making records available through the NBN where staff resources allow. I'm currently managing 18 such datasets on the NBN Gateway, all but 3 from my Local Records Centre. They also get paid a little by Natural England to support this activity.
A special case are the contributors to the datasets they are managing and LRCs actually help these recorders out; in a way the cash flows the other way (if there is any). The whole concept of Local Records Centres would not work if this were not the case. These people tend to be their local recorders but national recording schemes enjoy similar priveleges: especially this one which has made large contributions to their datasets.
You are clearly a contributor, don't hold back on any enquiry you have of this nature with any of the Local Records Centres in the country, I'm answering enquiries of this nature all the time. More Dipterists should be doing what you are.
(Wearing my "Secretary of the Association of Local Environmental Records Centres" hat)


Darwyn Sumner
DF Bulletin Editor, Scheme Organiser: Stilt & Stalk Flies

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