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Hello,
I got this one pic only on 11th July. It doesn't look quite like Xylota segnis, I've tried going through the key and the brown hind basitarsi is the only real feature I can go on definitely, although I can't see any very long bristles on the hind femora ventrally. The left hind tibia also is showing yellow at the top, with mostly black at the bottom.
Can this be identified from this picture?
Janet
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Thanks Nigel,
Where is the dark mark supposed to be?
I haven't seen a X. segnis with brown hind basitarsi, can they be brown?
Janet
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Hello Janet,
In females of X tarda there should be a darkening at the rear of the second tergite and the abdomen is quite noticeably bulbous shaped in comparison to the parallel sided abdomen of X segnis.
X tarda is very scarce. The recording scheme has only 16 post 2000 records for the species. By comparison X segnis is amongst our most frequent hoverflies (711 post 2000 records), so the odds are firmly in favour of X segnis - particlularly in the absence of the key features for tarda.
I have only ever seen a single specimen of X tarda, collected by someone in Worcs, and it is quite a different looking fly from X segnis so I am 99% confident about your's being segnis. I'm always reluctant to say 100% confident from photos though!
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OK Nigel, will have to leave this one as Xylota sp. I think! The abdomen colouring isn't very visible either.
I do have a lot of rare and scarce flies, moths etc. I live in a very old estate area with old woods surrounding.
I have the first record in Lincolnshire for a leaf miner moth Ectoedemia quinquella, I also have the very scarce in Lincolnshire Luffia ferchaultella, and Tachanid fly Mintho rufiventris which I saw last year twice, and this year.
I have Ephydridae which is only showing 2 records on the south and south east coast on the NBN, Nostima picta. I have Hydrellia albilabris, and many others showing very few records. I'm finding them in my garden, they are about, just not been found before.
I also had Meligramma triangulifera which only had 21 records showing on the HRS since 2000, Roger Morris has my record now.
Some of my pics are on diptera.info user name blowave.
I'll be keepiing my eyes open as usual ![]()
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Hi Janet,
Sounds like a very good location where you live. I worked in an office set in old estate woodlands until recently and it was very good for a good number of scarce species, so you may yet get a definitive X tarda. ![]()
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It is segnis as the hind femora show two series of spines.
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Hopefully so Nigel. I'll certainly be posting it if I find one which can be clearly said to be that species.
One day when I managed to get all my flies together and properly identified I will have to submit all my records, I have some good ones! It's an ongoing process though, and I snap everything, not just flies so I'm being kept rather busy. ![]()
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Thanks for that Paul!
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I agree that it is segnis. But if you have any ancient woods with aspen, check out sunlit foliage for tarda. It is not too rare in Warwickshire once you have worked out which woods have aspen.
Falky
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Is that a certain type of Aspen Falky? There is Poplar nearby I'm sure, I'll have to take more notice!
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In Warwickshire it is specifically associated with Aspen (and as the county tree registrar I check a lots of other poplars). Suprised it does'nt seem to use Grey Poplar (which is supposedly 50% Aspen), but I'd like to check that matter further when I get time. Saw quite a few tarda today at Ryton Wood resting on foliage of Aspen regrowth in coppiced areas. The association is so strong I sometimes wonder if tarda is attracted by the balsamic smell of aspen. But other poplars are known to support things like the ulidiid Myennis Octopunctata, and fallen Grey Poplar trunks in rivers and streams appears to be used by Chalcosyrphus eunotus her in Warwickshire (possibly Tanypeza too).
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All fascinating stuff! Thanks for the extra info falky, I now know what Aspen leaves look like.
I have an Ephydridae to post.... looks like Notiphila brunnipes so I'll start a new thread for that.
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