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#1 2017-06-08 16:38:38

sabina
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Confirmation on one and help on others please

With help from Tony Irwin who identified my first, blurry photo of a Myopa, I have had a try at the  species.  The two blue creatures I know are not flies but can anyone help with the Order please?  It is good to have the Forum back on line.  Well done Stuart (?) for getting it up and running again.


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#2 2017-06-09 11:34:35

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Re: Confirmation on one and help on others please

The blue job looks like one of the clear winged Psyllidae (Homoptera).

Try www.britishbugs.org.uk  They are very helpful with ID queries

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#3 2017-06-09 12:11:54

sabina
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Re: Confirmation on one and help on others please

Thank you Neil that's a good lead for ones I know are not flies.  Once I get some idea of the order I enjoy searching but 'needle in haystack' comes to mind.

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#4 2017-06-10 00:04:14

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Re: Confirmation on one and help on others please

'picture wing' looks like Euleia heraclei.

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#5 2017-06-10 11:47:49

sabina
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Re: Confirmation on one and help on others please

Yes, thank you.  Just seen a photo on Nature Spot with the wings still. Very attractive. This one was going round and round, not sure what that was about.  I will look up its habits.

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#6 2017-06-19 20:58:14

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Re: Confirmation on one and help on others please

The blue-grey cranefly with the golden tuft id Tipula luna, and the blac/yellow 'tiger' cranefly without a stigma spot is probably Nephrotoma appendiculata.
John K

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#7 2017-06-20 22:31:59

sabina
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Re: Confirmation on one and help on others please

Again thank you John plus the extra clue 'without a stigma spot'. Something else for me note on photo and then look into it more which I enjoy.  I will put them on irecord and  may I say you identified them please?

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#8 2017-06-25 10:57:16

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Re: Confirmation on one and help on others please

There are 15 British species of Nephrotoma, 4 of which have a pale stigma.  The light reflecting off the wings is one source of uncertainty since it obscurs the markings.  N. appendiculata is the most common, scurra has a longer body and flavescens is smaller.  A photo of the side of the thorax would help to confirm this one. 
John K

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#9 2017-06-25 12:45:47

Phaonia73
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Re: Confirmation on one and help on others please

Photo number two looks more like a winged aphid (Aphidoidea) to me than a psyllid.

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