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I have been asked for advice on using sticky traps for monitoring flies, but don't know much about their use.
Are they used mainly for larger flies such as Muscids and is there a recommended distance apart for placing etc? Anything on this subject would be useful.
Thanks
Don
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As well as a non-chemical method of domestic fly control, I think that they may be used to monitor horticultural pests in greenhouses.
Anything that lands on them will stick. Flies of all sizes will be caught.
To look under a microscope for identification you would cut out the section with the fly and put on a card. Not ideal for a reference collection, but adequate for pest and general identification.
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Catts, E. P. & N. H. Haskell. 1990. Entomology and Death: A procedural guide.
details the use of pup tent traps, and the removal of specimens from, if i recalll corectly, i shall have a look later when i am by my books
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The person who asked me about them is interested in monitoring Calliphorids and similar sized flies. I think the idea is to place the traps in the open on posts.
brianh wrote:
As well as a non-chemical method of domestic fly control, I think that they may be used to monitor horticultural pests in greenhouses.
Anything that lands on them will stick. Flies of all sizes will be caught.
To look under a microscope for identification you would cut out the section with the fly and put on a card. Not ideal for a reference collection, but adequate for pest and general identification.
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Milking parlours use something called "Mr Sticky" that comes on a 300m roll. is that what you after?
Last edited by Mark (2010-04-13 16:28:20)
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I'm not sure I want 300m, but I've just had a look at the site for Mr Sticky and it's an American firm.
I think I need a board, coated on one side - most of the glue traps I've looked at are quiet small ie. 10cm by 14cm and meant for indoor use. The chances of a fly hitting that in the open are quite slim, although they do tend to be yellow or white, which obviously helps.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Try http://www.milkingmachines.co.uk/uk2shop-18.htm for UK supplier?
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That looks quite good! It could be cut into lengths and stapled to boards.
Cheers Mark
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Catts and Haskell recommend placing the sticky substance on waxed cardboard in a "vshape" using clothes pegs to keep them off the ground and placing the traps aproximatly 1m away from a bait, it recomends using xylene or paint thinner to remove specimens
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I have tried using yellow sticky traps for fly collection for conservation monitoring. Very few flies were in good enough state for identification after using solvents to remove them. Loss of legs, wings, bristles etc. was common. For larger flies where colour patterns on the body are important (some hoverflies) this may be a reasonable technique, but for muscids, for example, it would be a poor technique, seeing as bristle orientation on legs is so critical. My best records using this technique were the beetles as they have tougher bodies - they could be retrieved relatively unharmed. I found some of my traps positions were regulary having caught insects removed (or at least bodies removed - only legs and wings of flies remaining stuck to the surface) and I suspect birds did this. If you could check the traps very regularly, you could get to the flies before the birds do. Also I did not enjoy having to use the solvents necessary!
Anyway, I suggest you do a trial run to see how useful this technique is for the fly groups of interest in the positions requiring fly capture before buying lots of sticky tape.
Judy
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The trouble with that is that you are attracting flies to a certain place. The idea really is to intercept them in flight, doing their thing, otherwise the results are being skewed.
Using paint thinner would be unpleasant in quantity, but Xylene fumes are bad and as far as I know it is banned as a carcinogen.
Andy chick wrote:
Catts and Haskell recommend placing the sticky substance on waxed cardboard in a "vshape" using clothes pegs to keep them off the ground and placing the traps aproximatly 1m away from a bait, it recomends using xylene or paint thinner to remove specimens
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I still think that if you are going to use this method then you leave the fly on the trap paper, and just cut it out and card it. I certainly agree that solvents will destroy the fly. For identification there should be enough visible characters.
If sticky traps do not appeal have you considered pan traps. They may be selective, but a wide variety of flies will be trapped.
If you want to intercept them in flight then there may be no alternative to a malaise trap which is expensive and not suitable for public locations.
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Well, this information is very useful, but a bit depressing. It appears that sticky traps would not be very useful for monitoring Calliphorids / Muscids. I envisaged being able to bring traps back, cut bits out and look at them under the microscope - from what you say it would be a waste of time.
I will possibly follow up your suggestion re a trial, but think an alternative might be better anyway.
I am tempted to go down the Malaise trap route, but it could be costly and prone to vandalism
Thanks Judy
Judy Webb wrote:
I have tried using yellow sticky traps for fly collection for conservation monitoring. Very few flies were in good enough state for identification after using solvents to remove them. Loss of legs, wings, bristles etc. was common. For larger flies where colour patterns on the body are important (some hoverflies) this may be a reasonable technique, but for muscids, for example, it would be a poor technique, seeing as bristle orientation on legs is so critical. My best records using this technique were the beetles as they have tougher bodies - they could be retrieved relatively unharmed. I found some of my traps positions were regulary having caught insects removed (or at least bodies removed - only legs and wings of flies remaining stuck to the surface) and I suspect birds did this. If you could check the traps very regularly, you could get to the flies before the birds do. Also I did not enjoy having to use the solvents necessary!
Anyway, I suggest you do a trial run to see how useful this technique is for the fly groups of interest in the positions requiring fly capture before buying lots of sticky tape.
Judy
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I think the pan traps are a good idea. I presume that any flies landing on the water would have been passing and got attracted by the colour, whereas baited traps might attract flies from some distance.
Ease of handling seems to be a winner also ie. scoop them out and preserve in alcohol.
I only wanted to know about sticky traps because someone had suggested their use to another person, then asked what I thought.
brianh wrote:
I still think that if you are going to use this method then you leave the fly on the trap paper, and just cut it out and card it. I certainly agree that solvents will destroy the fly. For identification there should be enough visible characters.
If sticky traps do not appeal have you considered pan traps. They may be selective, but a wide variety of flies will be trapped.
If you want to intercept them in flight then there may be no alternative to a malaise trap which is expensive and not suitable for public locations.
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We are regularly using sticky traps (check 'Oecos' - a UK supplier of traps of various sizes) to monitor certain pest species. The traps are up for 5 days, but even then birds have sometimes removed specimens. We first identified the flies breeding on the site (by sweeping them) and then it is possible to use these as comparative material. You cannot identify a large number of different species from sticky traps, in such a case you best use pan traps. Removal of specimens from a sticky trap is impossible, just stick the whole trap under your microscope - but be careful to not get everything sticky. Be careful with a Malaise trap - this most likely pulls in insects from quite a distance and you get a huge quantity of specimens that nobody wants to identify.
We could give you more precise advice if you could let us have the reason for the trapping.
Good luck,
Barbara
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Can I discuss this off group please?
My email address is don.sten@o2.co.uk
Thanks
Don
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We will answer your other e-mail as this looks like a commercial pest problem and Dipterists Forum is not a commercial pest forum.
Barbara
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Hi there,
We are using small 2cmx2cm squares of yellow Agralan sticky traps as part of our sampling strategy to investigate the biodiversity of stone walls. This thread has been very useful. We would be very grateful for some advice regarding preserving the sticky traps. Specimens adhered to both sides of the trap. We kept them in 70% alcohol in ziploc bag but the bags have leaked, and we wondered did anyone have any bright ideas so that we can better preserve them for a few months.
Thanks a million in advance,
Caitriona
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